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Post by Rommel on Mar 15, 2012 5:43:43 GMT -6
Never have I been so happy that I didn't pre-order a game, cause I'm not in the habit of spending money on things that kick my hopes and expectations in the testicles. Fuck it, I'm gonna start writing Friendship is Magic stories. Attachments:
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Post by convicter on Mar 18, 2012 17:16:35 GMT -6
It was bad man, like real fucking bad. I have three possible reasons why...
1. They just really did not know how to end it.
2. That was not the ending, the real ending will come later for 800 points.
3. They ran outa time and just threw the shit together.
Aside from the ending and a photoshopped Tali the game was pretty fucking good.
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Post by convicter on Mar 18, 2012 17:22:44 GMT -6
Yeah, I can imagine it would be pretty hard to get into writing any ME based FF when the creators piss on it like they did. There has been several decent redux's of the ending that some fans have done that were significantly better. A fan fiction should never be better than cannon when set in the same universe but Bioware fucked up so damn bad that anyone can do it better. Not only was the ending stupid but it made no fucking sense. Sorry I could go on for an hour, but that would be pointless.
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Post by Rommel on Mar 19, 2012 0:46:45 GMT -6
Honestly? I've got half of a mind to say this wasn't a blatant cash grab (New ending that makes sense, only 9000 bioware points!!11), a hack-kneed rush job, or just a total lack of creative ideas.
It wouldn't surprise me if this was just some lowlife asshole's idea of a joke. As in 'We've already made millions of dollars off of these games, this is the last game of the trilogy and no matter what happens, it is going to go gold, so let's just totally ruin the series, in the last ten minutes, knowing full well that we have made compelling games and that the fans are emotionally invested going in, and then we'll defend it from the inevitable outrage by comparing the fans to the OWS crowd, and say that if they don't like it they just aren't smart enough to understand it.'
I mean... Synthesis? Seriously?
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Post by convicter on Mar 21, 2012 18:13:52 GMT -6
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Post by convicter on Mar 24, 2012 10:11:11 GMT -6
So apparently they are not going to rewrite the endings, just fill in the gaps and plot holes... imgur.com/eMYVd |
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Post by Rommel on Mar 24, 2012 11:54:43 GMT -6
A vision springs to my mind of a cement truck heading to the Grand Canyon.
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Post by convicter on Mar 24, 2012 12:38:41 GMT -6
Pretty much and if you have ever been there those words ring so true.
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Post by Rommel on Mar 28, 2012 11:07:54 GMT -6
I'm gonna be honest here: I'm actually not that upset about the endings.
Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying they're the least bit acceptable, under any standard, or that I don't understand the anger and frustration, and disappointment the majority of the fan base feels. It's just that I made my peace with the fact that ME3 would never live up to my expectations at the very moment in ME2 when the Reaper/Terminator (Humans have two eyes, no they have four eyes, very well we shall compromise), popped up.
As bad as it sounds, in that deep, black part of my mind where I'm a complete asshat 100% of the time (All Renegade, all the time), I feel the tiniest bit of.. not pleasure at the ending, but vindication. I figured they were going to go all-out, bleek, there-are-no-happy-endings. Which echoing the thoughts of a lot of smarter people than I, would have been fine in context. On top of that though, we got nonsensical pseudo-intellectual trans-humanism, inevitability blagh, because someone decided in the last five minutes they were writing Asimov instead of Star Wars.
If Bioware.. I hesitate to say 'fixes' the ending, but if they make it more palatable to those who are going into it emotionally invested (As they obviously intended), I'll pick up ME3, and the subsequent DLC after they're on the second or third tier pricing. Barring that, I'll just say, 'Thanks guys, you just saved me $80 bucks, and an unknown dollar amount because I'm never gonna bother with one of your games in the future'.
I'm not gonna stop writing my Imperial Glory series, and I am not going to let this stop my enjoyment of ME1 and ME2. I'm skipping denial and bargaining, and just sticking with anger and acceptance. I'm good. I'm not happy, but.. I'm good.
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Post by convicter on Mar 28, 2012 12:37:14 GMT -6
Human reaper is a meh for me, mostly because the reaper hull can take any shape they want it to. That is explaned more in ME3 but it is the terrible story writing that burned my ass. This video www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MlatxLP-xs here explains why Bioware failed at the ending. It is long but I was not bored watching it. I am glad your going to keep writing your series, I enjoy your work. |
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Post by stros727 on Apr 1, 2012 23:31:07 GMT -6
Well, I just had no reaction when I saw that ending. Playing through the first two, building a reindship with my squadmates that were lving in and of themselves, crossign the galaxy righting wrongs (100% paragon, oh yeah) and for some reason it all came to an end like that; it was very disappointing.
I don't know if anyone else came across this, but I watched some videos on youtube about the "indoctrination" theory. It is a bit long to explain in here, but suffice to say it would mean the whole ending was not real after shepard woke up from being blasted by harbinger.
What do you all think?
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Post by convicter on Apr 5, 2012 19:22:02 GMT -6
" An official press release went out today announcing how we are re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for our fans. For many of you the "Extended Cut" will help answer some questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh and it's at no cost to you - the fan. Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn't: What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC? For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard's journey. Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future? No. BioWare strongly believes in the team's artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned. What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC? BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3. When will the Extended Cut DLC be available? Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point. Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC? Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard's story. So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding. Be good to each other and Summer is coming..." Source social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/11028261 |
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Post by Rommel on Apr 5, 2012 20:50:16 GMT -6
Fifth reply on BSN nails it.
Well Bioware, I hope whatever dirt Mac Walters has on your CEO is worth it, cause as we say in these parts, dis ain't gonna end well.
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Post by Rommel on Apr 5, 2012 21:07:29 GMT -6
You know what, I'm gonna break a personal rule and double-post here, cause there's something I have to say.
Bioware, y'all had the perfect opportunity. I know the indoctrination thing wasn't intentional, most folks do I dare to say, but nobody gives a rat's ass. You have a perfect out, you have the one in a million chance of a do-over on your pivotal work, you have people lining up and asking you to call them an idiot and take their money, and instead you say "No, I'm not going to take it," and double down on THAT ENDING. Fucking cyborg-plant dna, or blow up the entire galaxy, or 'no shepard, you are the reapers', seriously??
No, no, that's it, it's over, I'm done. Bioware, as a gaming company, is dead to me. Their titles are no longer on even my consideration list, let alone must-buys.
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Post by convicter on Apr 5, 2012 21:18:49 GMT -6
Yeah and I shudder to think of the prequels that will emerge in this universe and we will all know how it ends... "Shepard dies, relays explode, Normandy crashes"... I really do not know how this shit was signed off on, the cofounders of Bioware and current senior VP's for EA constantly rant about "Emotional STORY TELLING through games" Why would they end the series with a fuck ton of speculation?
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Post by Sash3394 on Jun 1, 2012 19:25:05 GMT -6
No suprise that after EA bought Bioware the games went downhill, when they were their own entities they took the time to make a good game like Kotor, Jade Empire, Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Post EA Mass Effect 2 & 3, Dragn Age 2 all subpar at best.
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Post by anna18 on May 30, 2018 7:16:31 GMT -6
Agree with you.
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